West Memphis Three: Who is the real killer behind the brutal - MEAWW He died before he was finished being tied up. After he removed his clothes, he ripped out one shoelace from Michaels shoe and cut it in half with his knife. He later changed that story and claimed she told them they were at some apartments. What really stands out to me, is that farmers and hunters use this method of tying a hog arm to leg in a method called hobbling. Terry Hobbs was born in 1958 and grew up in Northern Arkansas. If the cop has power, it's easy. I believe the known evidence supports the notion that Terry said yes, but that Stevie went inside to eat dinner first. He flipped flopped between being at home with his mother and being at his friend Richards house from 5:30-9pm. VICKIE: ARRON TOLD ME THAT UM HE AND MICHAEL AND CHRIS VISITED THEIR CLUB HOUSE EVERYDAY AND THEY ROAD THEIR BIKES AND THEY WERE SPYING ON 5 MEN AND AH I ASKED HIM WHO THEY WERE AND HE SAID I DONT KNOW MOM WHO THEY WERE I JUST YOU KNOW WE JUST SPYING ON EM I SAID WHY WOULD YOU BE SPYING ON 5 MEN YOU KNOW AND HE SAID WELL THEY WERE THERE EVERYDAY SO WE WOULD WATCH THEM. ~Stevie had bruises on the back of his hands, indicating he put up a fight. Terry was born in Northern Arkansas and grew up in the Ozark Mountain region of the state. Catch them! When the teens brought the boys back, one of them kicked Hobbs which sent him into a rage. Flashback to 1993, 4 months after the murders, Pam said that Terry told her he didn't get mad, he got even. I allege that all three men returned to Terrys home and cleaned themselves up, which most likely involved washing mud off their shoes. 'West Memphis Three' case: John Byers, suspect and stepfather - MEAWW First of all, she claims that her husband, her three children and her sons girlfriend were all in the car that night and two of her children even testified in court about the sighting. ! Retired FBI profiler, John Douglas, as well as profiler Brent Turvey both believed the entire attack was punitive in nature and that the perpetrator was teaching the boys a lesson for either a real or percieved transgression. VICKIE: UM, JUST SOME BOARDS, LOOKED LIKE SOME ONE HAD LIKE MADE A DEER STAND, A LONG TIME AGO OR SOMETHING AND JUST SOME BOARDS AND THEY KINDA HAD YOU KNOW LIKE A FORTRIDGE: OKAY, AND WERE THEY NAILED ONTO THE TREE OR COULD YOU TELL THAT? We know from multiple sightings, including Michaels mother, that the three boys were on two bikes riding on 14th, headed to Goodwin St. at 6pm. AARON: MICHAEL AND CHRIS SAID NOT TO TELL NOBODY. I was almost 21, a new mom and lived just across the bridge, in Memphis when the murders happened. RIDGE: FIVE TIMES YOU SAW IT HAPPEN FIVE TIMES? Either way, either one or two of the perpetrators decided it was necessary to actually get into the water to submerge the boys. (1, 2, 3) This means that not only did Narlene lie repeatedly to police and in court, but she convinced her two children to lie under oath as well. (3) She claimed to have seen them near the spot they were murdered somewhere between 6:00 and 6:30. was terry hobbs ever found - wytprod.com And keeping the knife as a trophy? However, since LG was wearing a tie that day and the alleged confessions state the teens wrestled, its my belief that LGs shirt and tie had been removed for the entire murder, which meant that it was clean. I think we have the answer now; Stevie and Chris appeared to have been tortured because they were the ones who were conscious. In late 2008, Hobbs entered into litigation with Natalie Maines Pasdar over alleged libelous comments. I've no doubt he killed Stevie to "get even" with Pam. Is it merely a coincidence that Terry Hobbs was a former butcher and that he grew up working on his familys pig farm? RIDGE OKAY, DO YOU REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY WHETHER YOU MAY HAVE GONE OVER TO JESSIES ON THAT DATE? UNLESS YOU KNOW NOT GETTING UP THERE AND LOOKING AT IT ALL. Again, Ill let you decide. I allege that these three women are correct in that they saw the three boys, I simply believe that they got confused on the time that it occurred. . The only person whose DNA would be in that ligature isthe person who tied the knots, Echols said. I met Terry Hobbs through a mutual friend, Roy Taylor. Apparently, LG walked in and asked for his cousin Dominis telephone number. At first she claimed that this happened at 4:30 and at the murder trials, she claimed it was sometime after 5pm. The most significant of them all, was the specific act of taking the bikes to the bayou, which were very likely with the children inside the Blue Beacon Woods. (Interestingly, Chris was referred to as the 3rd child in the alleged confessions. You may be the judge of the that. How about his fucking alibi, oh wait, the dudehe claimed him as an alibi thinks he did it. When Dixie told her of him coming in to the laundry in the small car she asked if she was sure that it wasnt Richard Simpsons car. Even Peretti agrees that there was injury to the groin area AFTER death. Is there any other reason why hed admit on national television that he lied? Is it just a coincidence that Buddy mentions that the boys were hit on the back of the head, and that, unknown to the public, all three were in fact hit in the back of the head? Even Aarons mother, Vicki, supported these statements in her first interview with police. Thats a time bomb. He was called a 'baby killer.' RIDGE: WHAT DID THE CLUB HOUSE CONSIST OF? The two men were looking for weed and asked the boys if they knew where to find some, or in other words, they wanted to know which drug dealer was currently holding. Not only was he punishing and dominating him, but he was expressing his repressed anger and shame associated with being bisexual or homosexual. Do you frequent gay clubs? He was probably only 5 or 10 feet from the other boys, not 25, as some people believe and 2. They believed something inappropriate may be going on between the two, who practically lived together. apparently Terry said just 2 weeks after the deaths that Pam was neglecting her duties as a wife, apparently Terry was jealous of how much Pam loved and gave attention to Stevie. Its been so long ago you know it may not be in the right order but I know he did come over around 5:30/6 oclock and we played the guitar for a while and then he said he had to go. He was still wearing the same shirt and tie when he was spotted at approx. These boards were right next to the clubhouse which means that when the boys were caught, they most likely would have been caught very close to where these boards lay, easily seen to the naked eye. ~It appears the boys *were* punched.. at least a little bit. This report http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/shadi.html details an incident where Damien got into a physical fight with another student and made numerous threats against him and his family. When LG was interviewed by police one of the things they noted was LGs suspicious relationship with Richard Simpson. This case has just been trapped in my mind since I heard about it and it breaks my heart every single day. He also confirmed that one of the teens, Buddy Lucas, had admitted to his involvement in the murders with the other three men. You should see the other documentary WEST OF MEMPHIS There youll be more secure. Almost immediately after Terry would have hit Michael, I believe that is when David would have caught Chris. Furthermore, it is highly unlikely that anyone other than Terry Hobbs and David Jacoby committed this crime and Ill briefly explain why. And why would Jacoby publicly and openly admit that he lied under penalty of perjury and to police back in 2007? Instead, defense attorneys say, the tests found DNA from Terry Hobbs, the stepfather of one of the murdered boys. Buddy told them that Billy Stewart was holding weed at that time. Vickie Hutchinson described the clubhouse like this: RIDGE: WHAT DID THE CLUB HOUSE CONSIST OF? In 2011, after 18 years in prison, the three innocent men were released on an Alford Plea. Terry Wayne Hobbs was born on May 21st, 1958. VICKIE: HE STAYED. David Jacoby also claimed to have seen the three boys in the street at this time; one on a skateboard and the others on bikes. In 1993, he was married to Pamela Hobbs and was the step father of Stevie Branch. : the alleged confessions of both Buddy and LG, Terry saw the boys spying and ordered the other three men to catch them. I theorize they then cleaned up the blood from Chris injuries by scraping up the mud, grass, leaves and blood and throwing it into the drainage ditch. I think its likely that Terry took the board with him as well to dispose of later or had it thrown in the bayou. Who killed three eight year old boys in West Memphis? : r - reddit In part, I blame paradise lost for the graphic images. From there, the police focused on finding clothes, speaking with the families, taping off the area, etc and possibly some small searching of the area. Ifvery conservativelyone in every 10-20 people is gay or bi, and the police force is made up of 20 people (just a fun number) one of those cops is gonna like dick. He had LG and Buddy rip off the clothes of the boys and then pulled out a knife and began to bite and stab the scrotum of one boy. All experts agreed that Perettis autopsy reports were written exquisitely. West Memphis Three: CrimeCon Experts Analyze Never-Before-Seen Terry NO, UM I WENT DOWN TO THE MOORES HOUSE TO SEE TODD AND DANA MOORE AND YOU KNOW JUST TO SEE YOU KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND UM, TODD ASKED ME VICKIE DO YOU THINK MAYBE AARON KNOWS WHERE THEIR AT? Which is right in line with why this attack would have occurred. So the chance of them basing their statements off of the practically endless information found on the internet is nil. Misskelly later recanted and claimed he was tired, ready to go home, and said what the detectives wanted him to say. That makes sense to me. The crime scene, as well as the clubhouse were both located somewhat close to each other on the east side of the drainage ditch. Perhaps she felt obligated to lie about Damien in order to get him arrested for a murder she believed he committed. THEY SAID NO WE HID THEY COULDNT SEE US. After all, it's the south. On the night of the 5th LGs aunt Dixie told police and her sister, Narlene, that LG was dropped off at the Laundromat where she worked in a small, light colored car. That makes sense to me. I believe as David dragged Chris with him back to the others, he picked up one of the boards that lay in the open nearby. 3:15 Michael Moore shows up and asks if he and Stevie can ride bikes together. If the boys truly had interrupted the men in the middle of a sex act, then it would be understandable why there were sexual overtones to their murder. Especially considering that they are remembering this event 18 years later for one, and for two, there were multiple sightings of the boys from 6pm-6:30 on the street beside the woods, quite a ways away from the Hobbs home, as well as the woods themselves. And uh Steve was suppose to come by (not audible) before dark I thank it was bout yeah it was bout this time a year it git dark around 8 oclock or so, and he said he told em to be back before dark. When they arrived in the woods, Terry Hobbs told the boys to wrestle. The West Memphis Three Case: An Evolving Story of Doubt So why didnt Terry return to the Moores house in the four frantic hours he searched for Stevie in their tiny neighborhood? At the time of the murders, LG was only 19 and spent most of his time with an unmarried man who was in his 50s. Furthermore, in the alleged confessions, Terry states: The bodies cant be found, at least not yet.. At 8:42, officer Meeks was dispatched to another call and left. If a weapon had been used to create all the injuries then there would have been major cuts and lacerations with the contusions just like there was on the boys heads. I remember when the news broke and sitting in my living room floor crying and holding my new daughter I have read, watched and researched as much as I could throughout the years. They happen to not agree with all of his interpretations. The reason for this is because LG lived very close to both the Byers and the Moores. TH & DJ supposedly killed the boys so they wouldnt snitch on them. Would project a macho, heterosexual, in-control image. RIDGE: DOING NASTY STUFF, WHERE DID YOU SEE THEM DOING THIS STUFF? If LG had been dropped off at home at 4:30, surely he would have changed out of his shirt and tie by 9pm. In 2011, the defendants were released from prison by accepting an Alford Plea, which allowed them to maintain their innocence and get out of prison, However, the plea didnt clear their convictions and all three men still have a murder charge on their record, despite their release from prison. 9pm by his aunt, and lastly, remember the very obvious lie Narlene made, and even convinced her two children to make,on the standabout seeing Damien and Domini on the service road.. What that may mean is that the last known place that LG was seen was Lakeshore Trailerpark. He then told the others that all three had to die for what they had seen. RIDGE: OKAY, AND WERE THEY NAILED ONTO THE TREE OR COULD YOU TELL THAT? Echols specifically wants the shoestrings used to tie up the victims to be tested at a California lab that utilizes new technology to extract DNA from evidence. New evidence points to new suspects in West Memphis 3 case - Action News 5 A rather uncommon knot for a regular person but a very common knot for a former butcher or farmer. RIDGE: OKAY, AND WHAT DID YOU FIND WHEN YOU CAME TO THE AREA? UNLESS YOU KNOW NOT GETTING UP THERE AND LOOKING AT IT ALL. She even described one brunette boy as being heavy set. When prosecutor John Fogelman interviewed Buddy later, Buddy repeatedly told him that he had an alibi for the 5th despite the fact that Fogelman never even brought it up himself. AND THAT WHITE TANK TOP MAN. They would watch the men as they smoked marijuana and engaged in sexual activity. RIDGE DO YOU REMEMBER THAT DAY ON THE 5TH, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT YOU DID THAT DAY? The use of hobbling helps to quickly control the animal as well as making transportation of the animal more easy. When police were searching for the boys on the fifth, they were not inspecting a crime scene, they were simply trying to find three boys. At all. RIDGE: DID YOU EVER SMELL THE SMOKE? Richard took another polygraph saying that LG was not with him the night of the 5th and he passed. If Michael had kicked Terry that could have been the impetus that pushed Terry to hit him back. I have a theory about what weapon it could have been. It isnt difficult to assume that Terry was told by his parents for most of his life that homosexuals were sinners who were going to hell. She hasnt seen him or Michael by this point. thanks for the recommendation!! Mark Byers claimed that Chris had attempted to break into the house sometime near 5pm but could not get in, when Mark arrived home at 5:20 and left shortly after to pick up his other son, he saw Chris riding his skateboard in the street. If we want to understand why those boys might have gotten killed in those woods we need not look further than Aarons own statements made to police shortly after the murders. RIDGE: OKAY. Years later it was discovered by experts for the defense that a knife had not caused the injuries to Chris penis at all. That leaves many years unaccounted for. That 1 cop will have bumped into everyone in that southern, 90s, dick-liking community. It makes absolutely no sense that she would have brought five people along with her at almost 10pm at night to pick someone up. I believe the clubhouse was mainly a concealed spot where the boys played. Terry Hobbs, the stepfather of another one of the murdered boys. WAS IT LIKE EVERY DAY OR ONCE WEEK OR JUST FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES YOU SAW IT HAPPEN? He continued to say that it was known in the drug world that Terry was gay or bisexual and that he preferred sex with young boys. Meaning to me that he was the third one caught). I then believe Terry went over to Michaels unconscious body and began to undress him. -3:30 Christopher shows up looking for the boys. I dont believe when Terry first saw them that he intended to kill them. I allege that the two perpetrators, Jacoby and Hobbs, entered the water and began to submerge the boys deep in the mud in order to keep them from floating. LITTLE ROCK The defense team for the West Memphis Three says it's has new evidence against the step father for one of the three victims, Terry Hobbs. The type of DNA testing utilized pertains to mtDNA. Its also interesting that Narlene is claiming that Damiens mother is lying about Damien being with her. Even more damaging is the specifics of the way the three boys were tied up. WE ALWAYS GOT A PLACE TO HIDE BEFORE THEY CAN GET THERE, AARON: WE HIDE ONE TIME WE HIDE BEHIND UM A TREE. NARLENE: She meant the mommy, the daddy and the son,(LG) she said I dont know whats going on over there and she said, they are making me nervous, shes a christian girl, she said and I got out of there, I said yeah, I get bad feelings around them too. THEY WERENT SCARED THAT MAYBE SOMEBODY HAD SEEN THEM IN THERE ONE DAY?AARON: UH-UH (NO), BECAUSE THEY NEVER SEEN US. Here are two statements made by Narlene to police about LG. The dynamic between them must have been s fucked up and dark and tense. Yup. Sex always wins and a casual look through history will show that people are gonna get off to what they need to get off to. Terry Hobbs was a violent man, this is proven and well documented, and the way Douglass pictures it, he likely wanted to punish or humiliate one or all of the boys and it went too far, leading him to murder them so they wouldn't be able to tell anyone. Those who didnt know the case that well simply believed that Chris entire penis and scrotum had been cut off with a knife. (1, 2,) He originally claims to have asked his aunt for a ride home, that she said no, and he left and began to walk home.