Close w/ TG can be problematic. Does it make a difference? I saw that there, Rusty, but I need data for FMJ, not HP. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. This powder is very popular. Hardware Reloading 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup G-Lo Jan 11, 2015 G-Lo Rating - 100% 8 0 0 Joined Jul 22, 2012 Messages 588 Likes 38 Jan 11, 2015 #1/18 Hey all- I wanted to ask you guys what have you liked for 9mm 124gr plated bullets using Titegroup. A forum community dedicated to Carolina firearm owners and enthusiasts. Jan 30, 2011 (Edited) I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I am using TiteGroup for 9mm, but I`m loading 124 gr. I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. A consistent shooter, Regina has finished in the Top 20 routinely and in the Top 10 quite frequently in both the National Rifle League and Precision Rifle Series. I do know its about mid charge range tho. When I first learned it was long before Algore had invented the net. With Hornady and Precision Delta 115gr FMJ best accuracy from my CZ75s is with 4.2-4.3 gr TG (~1100fps) Boris_La Posts: 85 Join date . When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. We believe the 2nd Amendment is best defended through grass-roots organization, education, and advocacy centered around individual gun owners. Still using same load years later and it's a good round. Obligatory start low and work your way upSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. Still using 4.0 Grains of Titegroup with 124 Gr Jacketed and 3.6 Gr. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. So it is interesting that the starting 124gr load did not show a load for 900fps. Skip this one, you can do better. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. Then work up from there. ABOUT MARSHA: Marsha is the co-host of Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha and is a Licensed Montana Professional Guide. ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. Works good in everything from my 1911 to Glock YMMV. No issues there. 9mm has a rather consistent 115gr OAL. December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. I was happy at 4.0 gr in M&P 9 and Sig p938. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. Some of these loads are over manufacturer recommended maximums, DO NOT COPY or try! Some flake powders have a wider range and they need it because they meter poorly. I consider the type of bullet. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. I have an old Lee maual, but it doesn't have any info on Titegroup. But we're just a free cock punch away from finding out how badass you really are. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. JavaScript is disabled. I am using CBI pistol powder. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. It's for practice, not for competition. All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. I use 4.5 gns with Federal primers loaded to an OAL of 1.130. So filling up half way looks normal. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSbEZeGeToe2YIoHyMXMjO9Oyp_dvQEM7VJ3tqfdwg0/edit?usp=sharing. What is your favorite firearm to load for? I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is at or higher than the recommended max charge. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. This is a good consistent and uniform powder, reloads easy and accurate. What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. It is our mission to encourage, organize, and support these efforts throughout Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. My name is Robert Brantley and I have been obsessed with precision rifle since 2007. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. No Charges? Its makes your gun a somewhat heat machine. Both Plated round nose and JHP. That will allow you to get a finer-tuned powder drop. My conclusion is that a 115 gr. Nov 7, 2015. 1.100" Starting Load Grains 3.9 I have looked at the factroy specs but I was looking for some input on loads that others use. Later, he started a granite countertop business allows him the time to pursue his passion for long-range shooting and high-country public land mule deer and elk hunting. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. JavaScript is disabled. It also burns hot, runs hot in your gun. He also placed second in the World Elk Calling competition. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. I would like a lighter load for practicenothing too hot. Reply Quote. We recommend upgrading your current browser or. Maybe Ill do another test with the chrono 10ft away and see if I get any difference in results, thanks. She has also competed for the USA in two Pan-American Shotgun matches and the 2015 IPSC World Shotgun Ladies team that brought home gold! http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=9%20mm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/dm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=566352. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. Load two according to the new data for the 124gr XTP has an OAL 1.140 with a power range of 3.6 to 4.1 grains that would make this unsafe. THR Group Project - PISTOL - Advanced Reloading Concepts and Discussions. Can't keep enough at the house. Hmm, I thought it was 5ft. I always set up my chrono at 10ft from the muzzle. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. I got the Titegroup on a recommendation. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Recently, well, a few months back, I loaded a thousand of the X-Treme 124gr PRN for my neighbor. The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is, https://shop.hodgdon.com/sites/www/files/2022-04/2022-Hodgdon%20Spherical%20Pow. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. I load 115gr Berry's plated at 1.125" with 4.5gr of Titegroup. Look at the large picture below, you can see, a normal load barely fills the case, its way down in there. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. When we say same bullet, same case, same primer, what we mean is each case/bullet/primer is weighed . Posted by David Blankenship on Aug 12th 2022. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. Pasted as rich text. Makes 900fps out of my G17. Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. Paste as plain text instead, Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . Hodgton indicates you can go to 4.1. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. Runs 100% reliable in everything, including 9mm AR and Beretta CX4 Storm. I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. Looks like i will test some 4.0 and 4.2 as long as they stay below 1200. Thanks all. My brother gave me some Titegroup. I have load some test rounds (not shot yet) and used the data from Hodgon website. A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Does anyone have a link to somewhere with this info? It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. 2.8 gr. Zach, a resident of McCook, Nebraska, started shooting trap and hunting when he was 10. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. Better to be too careful than blow something up. I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. Otherwise I would go 10% below the start for the closest slug the book had. Upload or insert images from URL. Is this not a safe load? MM thanks for that comment on the adjustable charge bar. I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. If you work from the max COL until they feed from the magazine and chamber correctly, you should find your ideal COL. My standard load is 124gr. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads. Soon I got a lot more comfortable as I did it a lot. Obligatory start low and work your way up What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? I don`t recall my OAL for either without looking in my load notebook. You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. All I had was word of mouth and books. For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. 3 grains? Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - Nitro 100 NF: 115 gr. The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . Shes also the co-director of her local club, the AZ LRPRS, assisting in facilitating monthly matches throughout the year. In her free time, she shoots in NRL22 club matches around the Kansas City area, where she lives with her husband Shane and where she works as a pharmacist. Your previous content has been restored. I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. I will be shooting mostly target at the range, 150-200 rounds per visit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I have tried this load out of my G34 and I am getting around 140PF to nearly 150PF. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. For instance I use Montana Gold hollow points and consider them to be pretty much the same as Speer/Hornady. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. I've had no issues in sever thousand loads, other than having to adjust COAL a few thousandths one way or the other. Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. Powered by Invision Community. A precision rifle enthusiast and owner of GA Precision, George likely needs little introduction. He has also put together the first online Precision Rifle Training series of its kind, gaining viewers from all over the world on the JC Steel Targets website. You say that now. I shot a lot of Sta-Ball 6.5 and it worked well beyond expectations. For a newb, you are treading on very thin ice & IMO, haven't enough exp to determine if your load is "fine". We will pass. Hollow points may be shorter so COAL may vary some. It's accurate and reliable. C.O.A.L. You can find Ryan on Shooting Gallery on The Outdoor Channel, and Realtree.com. In 2016, she plans to lead a delegate of women to Capitol Hill in an effort to give legislators a face to put with gun owners. The larger permanent cavity may lead to faster blood loss. Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I just got some new information. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. I use titegroup for 9mm using the Lee charge disk on my turret press. She has been named as a co-host on Shooting Gallery on the Outdoor Channel. Boris_La . Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. This is a capture from the Sierra load data with Titegroup starting at 1000fps. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. Those who would emasculate Americans by denying them the right to bear arms are guilty of aiding and abetting evil when it strikes. Its popularity soared after World War II, and the U.S. military adopted the 9x19mm as its service pistol round in 1985. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. Phillip is also well known as a nationally ranked precision rifle competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League circuits. . Nuff said. containers. You need to get teh double disc kit. Many of these are 131-135 PF, which are plausible competition loads. Most manuals stop at 147 grains, though Hodgdon and Vihtavuori have data for 150 grain bullets. Its easy to double charge your rounds, as you will barely notice. I am doing 3.7gr of Titegroup 124gr bullet. This is a flattened spherical powder. In that time I have used it for both hunting and competition. Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. My M&P and G34 love the 115 and 124s, but the 147s won't group for crap in either gun with any load and I took it up to 3.9 which is pretty hot. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. The loads highlighted in yellow are those that I found work best for me. Retired LEO/Rangemaster, Glock armorer, pistol instructor, Endowment NRA member. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! A plated bullet (Berry's, Rainier Ballistics) falls between the two. Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. This works well for me, although the TG seems to meter a bit inconsistant, so I bought some WSF to try out. and 8 lb. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. Unique. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Titegroup has it all low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. Here is what I have to work with and have used a combination of 3 books, 3 magazines, and self-reported loads from the interwebs. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. Im loading either 115gr or 125gr HP. Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. You accidentally load this into a rifle, or a larger pistol cartridge, its super dangerous. I use 3.5g Titegroup under a 147g JHP. Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. FMJ in my XD-9 vel. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). This section shows you A LOT of information about 9 MM powders and how they compete against each other using the same brass, same bullet, same OAL, same primer, same gun, same day, same conditions..the only thing that is different is the powder. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. containers. Appreciate the input. Thanks guys. behind a 115gr. Warning! Some take the caution a little farther than needed but really nothing wrong with that. Starting Load Grains 4.9 Velocity (ft/s) 1,124 Pressure 28,800 PSI Maximum Load Grains 5.4 Velocity (ft/s) 1,209 Pressure 33,800 PSI Barrel Length: 4" Case: Winchester Primer: CCI 500, Small Pistol Trim Length: .750" Twist: 1:10" 115 GR. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. Current Oregon State Police Background Check Queue Status As Countdown To Measure 114 Vote Approaches. Generally speaking, ~3.3 grains of Titegroup using a 147 grain bullet is about as vanilla of a competition load as it gets. All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. Don't ask me why the maximum charge for Titegroup is higher with the 125 gn bullets. I plan on using Titegroup since I have it for my 45ACP. Thanks for your patience. He play trumpet in the Junior High Band and I am an honor roll student at St. Pats. His last three years of service were spent at the 1st Marine Division Scout Sniper School as the Primary Marksmanship Instructor. And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. When we are sold out, we are sold out. Makes an impression on you. containers. What type of a load are you attempting to develope? Titegroup 3.4grs 968 FPS G34 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 668 Scottsdale, AZ Posted January 28, 2018 Notes 2: 3.5grs Tite Group Distance to Chrono (FT): 5.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212 Bullet Weight (gr): 147.00 Temp: N/A F BP: N/A inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 957 298.99 140.68 9 947 292.77 139.21 8 959 300.24 140.97 Shoots well, functions well and it is light enough. Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO STAY UP ON THE LATEST. Today, it is a popular military and law enforcement handgun cartridge. Like many reloaders I ended up with 6 or 7 different powders for my pistols until I shot 5 rounds from each similar FPS loads from a bench. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. Sowhat about Titegroup and what do some cases look like? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser settings before proceeding. I`m using 3.8 gr for the plated, and 4.2 gr for the JHP. Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. Better like this than some of the disasters I've seen where someone basically takes a wild guess at something. The bullets I have available are 124gr/125gr plated and jacketed and 147gr plated. I've been shooting 4.0 grains of Titegroup with Berry's 124gr. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I thought one was supposed to be at least 10 feet away from the chronograph when measuring velocity. I don't pay so much attention to the bullet manufacturer when loading. He is also the past Editor of Blackpowder Guns and Hunting Magazine. It is very aggravating not be able to find a load data for the particular bullet you'd like to use. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. Diannas also won the 2015 NRA World Shooting Championship Ladies title. YMMV. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. I wonder why the difference. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. Loading 9mm RN with Titegroup data horsegoalie Apr 24, 2013 H horsegoalie Rating - 100% 6 0 0 Joined Sep 18, 2012 Messages 284 Likes 27 Apr 24, 2013 #1/11 I am starting a load with some Berry's 115gr RN plated bullets and Titegroup. Just In the 2019 season, he will compete in twelve two-day national matches and 15 regional matches across the country, totaling 4,170 precision hand-loaded match rounds burning roughly 131,355 grains (18.75 pounds) of Varget in matches alone. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Cases were mixed brands of commercial brass and not sorted by maker. He harvested his first turkey and whitetail deer at age 5 and completed his turkey grand slam by age 11. She helps organize and coordinate Arizonas own national level event, the Tactical Precision Rifle Challenge.
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